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you with. Then post this in your LJ and elaborate on the subjects given.
This list of five given by![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
miss_madb:
1) Dogged optimisim
2) Fairies! Bondage fairies!
3) Ultra long-term relationship
4) Being the cute computer geek girl
5) Unique style and stubborn individualism
1) Dogged optimism
This one is interesting. I do identify with optimism somewhat, but I also tend to mix it with realism a lot of the time and I'm not immune to bouts of doom and gloom. I think realistic optimism has a lot more potential to last than pie-in-the-sky optimism though, maybe that's where the doggedness comes from? I worry about things quite easily, but somehow part of me (whether I'm paying attention to it or not) still believes everything is going to be all fine.
2) Fairies! Bondage fairies!
Faeries! I do actually believe in them - a lot of different versions of them, along with angels and other similar beings. Shirley Barber and Enid Blyton type fairies are my favourite, but I don't believe in that type. Interestingly enough, I was just thinking of the Bondage Fairies porn comics again recently. They're just so quirky and so different from other portrayals of faeries! There are many different ways to spell faery. I tend to use faery/faeries most commonly, or fairy/fairies when refering to pop-culture little kiddie types. The faerie/faeries spelling conjures the "darker" side for me, so I don't tend to use that spelling. I strongly identify with faeries, and usually add them in the mix if I happen to be asking the various otherworldy sources for healing or protection. My mum identifies more with angels, but they just seem to be the next room over or the next floor up or something for me. Not really where I am myself, but still around. Now to get off meta-physical topics, since I don't usually like discussing them with friends. It's very personal for me, plus it keeps friendships a lot nicer and tidier and easier to maintain - or something like that.
3) Ultra long-term relationship
I didn't exactly plan to have a long-term relationship, but I certainly didn't really plan to have any other type! I think the way this happened can be attributed to many parts. Part luck. Part influence. Part the ability to see both sides of any story. Part always having a logical inner being working away, even when the middle and outer are being irrational. Part allowing each other to change and accepting the new person they are.
Hm, maybe this needs more explanation than just parts. I'll present it chronologically and simply, which naturally means parts - some big parts too - will be missed out.
My parents had always been matter of fact about the birds and the bees, so I never really had the "giggle at the naughty not allowed stuff" thing going that my peers at school did. I think that aided in my not being gaga about boys - the girls at school that were the main gagas were also the main gigglers. I was a late bloomer, so I didn't have hormones screaming at me either. I started being interested a bit more in boys "that way" when I was 16. Shortly after, Zig arrived on the scene and became my first boyfriend. So that was good timing and luck.
Now to backtrack a bit to influences. I had that get married plan that a lot of girls have when they're young. So I guess that I kind of had a long-term thought pattern from the start. I have two older brothers, one that's seven years older, and one that's ten years older. We moved to the country the year I first started school, and they started at boarding school the same year. All of their dating experiments sort of happened out of my sight and over my head. I only connected them with girls when they were in steady relationships. Mum and Dad had been married a while too, part of having older parents. So the main people in my life were in effect examples of long termers to me. Another big influence for Zig in particular was my brother. I admire my brother greatly, so Zig got awesome extra bonus points for being friends with him When I discovered that Zig was quite close to my age and not near my brother's age....well.
I was raised to see both sides of a story. Chances are that if you tell me something that happened involving someone else, I'm likely to respond by pointing out what the other person might have been thinking. Seeing both sides of a situation can be handy. Seeing both sides if one of the sides is yours is more difficult, but double as handy. Empathy is a handy thing in a relationship, although it can be irritating to be feeling one way but understand what the other person is thinking and knowing it's just as valid as your point of view. It can help in discussions and arguments though.
The blessing and curse of that logic self. It's another thing that can be irritating but can help in discussions and arguments. Sometimes I'll just say to Zig "look, I know I'm being irrational right now, give me ten minutes and I'll have sorted it out and we can go forward". He's learnt that if he shuts up, then I'll think about whatever it is that I was for no reason digging my heels in about and drop it. It's harder to stop being irrational if the disagreement goes on, but that doesn't happen as often now that I've learnt to tell him and he's learnt to give me space.
Zig and I are no longer the people who met each other. On my end I've ranged from a very low emotional maturity to something resembling a mature adult. Having a decent logical side hiding in there helped a lot in dealing with my emotional immaturity. I've also had to self-examine myself a lot and rethink what I thought about myself and make changes based on that. I've had to work through many assumptions about life, love, and relationships. He's changed quite a lot too, but this is about me, not him ;p.
Overall, the last thing may possibly be the most important. To understand that the other person can and will change as time goes on. To be able to adapt to those changes and be supportive. To make sure that you let the other person know what's going on with you and your changes, and not just assume that they've been magically keeping up.
4) Being the cute computer geek girl
Cute? Maybe in mannerisms ;) My feelings on my prettiness levels fluctuate (they do for most people I guess). Working in a computer store as I do, I guess I can qualify as a computer geek. I know quite a few people with knowledge levels high above my own though! I can install Windows and drivers, find cracks for games, format and partition a hard drive, know what you're talking about when you mention a computer part and have even built two computers with my own hands. I think my number one awesome skill as a computer person is being able to convert things into analogies that help non-computer people understand. Like those customers who come in wanting a video card, and only know they need a ***mb card and thinks that tells me everything I need to know. My analogy for that is the memory is just a fuel tank, but the engine (the chip) is more important. I spend a lot of time talking about computers with people. I don't really feel like a computer geek though. Zig blows me out of the water with his knowledge, and I don't do any programming (HTML and forgotten CSS knowledge don't count, mm-kay?). I'm lost if you start talking about pixel shading on video cards. On the whole I'd class myself as a very low-end computer geek. On being a girl in such an evironment? Sometimes I think I fit the steroetype! Other times it annoys me that some people (a very small percentage of the time) assume I don't know anything because they hear a female voice on the phone. Sometimes (an even smaller percentage) I'll get this attitude in person. It really doesn't start those customers off on a very good foot when dealing with the sales person. Mostly I don't really feel either way about it because I don't really confront it. In this company all the sales are girls and all techs are guys, which kinda fulfils the stereotypes. Partly intentional, partly happenstance. So that's the environment I've worked in for almost five years and I'm kind of used to it.
5) Unique style and stubborn individualism
Oh shucks. What do I say about this? I think for fashion style, op-shops are the main big culprit. Most people I know who grew up with and love op-shops have their own unique fashion style. The rest I attribute to having an understanding mother, a strict father, effectively being a single child when going to school but having brothers during the holidays, and interacting with restricted no-nonsense country minds while having a sort of book-worm hippy outlook. Or something! I feel very lucky to have had a single child upbringing but with brothers occasionally. Best of both worlds sort of thing. I'm not sure they appreciated a little sister hanging around on their holidays though!
As for stubborn, there's two main types. The sort of stubborn where one vocally digs in one's heels loudly for all to see and hear, and the sort where you've just always done it that way and just keep on quietly doing it no matter what someone else says. I inherited/learnt both types, one from each parent.
Having a lot of mixed up beliefs instead of one main type means that I can't quite completely sheeple into any one religion, although I visit a few of them from time to time. They are beliefs that have built up over a lifetime and have all contributed and grown from each other, making it very difficult to articulate them. That sort of thing can lead to a different style of interacting with people, and a different sort of outlook on life.
My primary school years were spent in Bindoon, which was still mainly a country town back then - when I moved there the general store was only just being over-shadowed by a brand new supermarket. We lived about 5-10 minutes out of town on a hobby farm. We sheep farmed, had a few rows of orange trees and mandarin trees, and a vineyard of currant grapes (tasty!). I didn't really stay over any friend's place, and a lot of the time I was left on my own up at the house while the parents did farm stuff. TV time was restricted to 30 minutes a day. I spent most of my time reading, listening to records, and playing pretend. Or helping out with farm stuff, although not too much. Entertaining oneself without much tv influence or continuous peer influence outside of school most likely greatly contributed to my own style and individualism.
you with. Then post this in your LJ and elaborate on the subjects given.
This list of five given by
miss_madb:1) Dogged optimisim
2) Fairies! Bondage fairies!
3) Ultra long-term relationship
4) Being the cute computer geek girl
5) Unique style and stubborn individualism
1) Dogged optimism
This one is interesting. I do identify with optimism somewhat, but I also tend to mix it with realism a lot of the time and I'm not immune to bouts of doom and gloom. I think realistic optimism has a lot more potential to last than pie-in-the-sky optimism though, maybe that's where the doggedness comes from? I worry about things quite easily, but somehow part of me (whether I'm paying attention to it or not) still believes everything is going to be all fine.
2) Fairies! Bondage fairies!
Faeries! I do actually believe in them - a lot of different versions of them, along with angels and other similar beings. Shirley Barber and Enid Blyton type fairies are my favourite, but I don't believe in that type. Interestingly enough, I was just thinking of the Bondage Fairies porn comics again recently. They're just so quirky and so different from other portrayals of faeries! There are many different ways to spell faery. I tend to use faery/faeries most commonly, or fairy/fairies when refering to pop-culture little kiddie types. The faerie/faeries spelling conjures the "darker" side for me, so I don't tend to use that spelling. I strongly identify with faeries, and usually add them in the mix if I happen to be asking the various otherworldy sources for healing or protection. My mum identifies more with angels, but they just seem to be the next room over or the next floor up or something for me. Not really where I am myself, but still around. Now to get off meta-physical topics, since I don't usually like discussing them with friends. It's very personal for me, plus it keeps friendships a lot nicer and tidier and easier to maintain - or something like that.
3) Ultra long-term relationship
I didn't exactly plan to have a long-term relationship, but I certainly didn't really plan to have any other type! I think the way this happened can be attributed to many parts. Part luck. Part influence. Part the ability to see both sides of any story. Part always having a logical inner being working away, even when the middle and outer are being irrational. Part allowing each other to change and accepting the new person they are.
Hm, maybe this needs more explanation than just parts. I'll present it chronologically and simply, which naturally means parts - some big parts too - will be missed out.
My parents had always been matter of fact about the birds and the bees, so I never really had the "giggle at the naughty not allowed stuff" thing going that my peers at school did. I think that aided in my not being gaga about boys - the girls at school that were the main gagas were also the main gigglers. I was a late bloomer, so I didn't have hormones screaming at me either. I started being interested a bit more in boys "that way" when I was 16. Shortly after, Zig arrived on the scene and became my first boyfriend. So that was good timing and luck.
Now to backtrack a bit to influences. I had that get married plan that a lot of girls have when they're young. So I guess that I kind of had a long-term thought pattern from the start. I have two older brothers, one that's seven years older, and one that's ten years older. We moved to the country the year I first started school, and they started at boarding school the same year. All of their dating experiments sort of happened out of my sight and over my head. I only connected them with girls when they were in steady relationships. Mum and Dad had been married a while too, part of having older parents. So the main people in my life were in effect examples of long termers to me. Another big influence for Zig in particular was my brother. I admire my brother greatly, so Zig got awesome extra bonus points for being friends with him When I discovered that Zig was quite close to my age and not near my brother's age....well.
I was raised to see both sides of a story. Chances are that if you tell me something that happened involving someone else, I'm likely to respond by pointing out what the other person might have been thinking. Seeing both sides of a situation can be handy. Seeing both sides if one of the sides is yours is more difficult, but double as handy. Empathy is a handy thing in a relationship, although it can be irritating to be feeling one way but understand what the other person is thinking and knowing it's just as valid as your point of view. It can help in discussions and arguments though.
The blessing and curse of that logic self. It's another thing that can be irritating but can help in discussions and arguments. Sometimes I'll just say to Zig "look, I know I'm being irrational right now, give me ten minutes and I'll have sorted it out and we can go forward". He's learnt that if he shuts up, then I'll think about whatever it is that I was for no reason digging my heels in about and drop it. It's harder to stop being irrational if the disagreement goes on, but that doesn't happen as often now that I've learnt to tell him and he's learnt to give me space.
Zig and I are no longer the people who met each other. On my end I've ranged from a very low emotional maturity to something resembling a mature adult. Having a decent logical side hiding in there helped a lot in dealing with my emotional immaturity. I've also had to self-examine myself a lot and rethink what I thought about myself and make changes based on that. I've had to work through many assumptions about life, love, and relationships. He's changed quite a lot too, but this is about me, not him ;p.
Overall, the last thing may possibly be the most important. To understand that the other person can and will change as time goes on. To be able to adapt to those changes and be supportive. To make sure that you let the other person know what's going on with you and your changes, and not just assume that they've been magically keeping up.
4) Being the cute computer geek girl
Cute? Maybe in mannerisms ;) My feelings on my prettiness levels fluctuate (they do for most people I guess). Working in a computer store as I do, I guess I can qualify as a computer geek. I know quite a few people with knowledge levels high above my own though! I can install Windows and drivers, find cracks for games, format and partition a hard drive, know what you're talking about when you mention a computer part and have even built two computers with my own hands. I think my number one awesome skill as a computer person is being able to convert things into analogies that help non-computer people understand. Like those customers who come in wanting a video card, and only know they need a ***mb card and thinks that tells me everything I need to know. My analogy for that is the memory is just a fuel tank, but the engine (the chip) is more important. I spend a lot of time talking about computers with people. I don't really feel like a computer geek though. Zig blows me out of the water with his knowledge, and I don't do any programming (HTML and forgotten CSS knowledge don't count, mm-kay?). I'm lost if you start talking about pixel shading on video cards. On the whole I'd class myself as a very low-end computer geek. On being a girl in such an evironment? Sometimes I think I fit the steroetype! Other times it annoys me that some people (a very small percentage of the time) assume I don't know anything because they hear a female voice on the phone. Sometimes (an even smaller percentage) I'll get this attitude in person. It really doesn't start those customers off on a very good foot when dealing with the sales person. Mostly I don't really feel either way about it because I don't really confront it. In this company all the sales are girls and all techs are guys, which kinda fulfils the stereotypes. Partly intentional, partly happenstance. So that's the environment I've worked in for almost five years and I'm kind of used to it.
5) Unique style and stubborn individualism
Oh shucks. What do I say about this? I think for fashion style, op-shops are the main big culprit. Most people I know who grew up with and love op-shops have their own unique fashion style. The rest I attribute to having an understanding mother, a strict father, effectively being a single child when going to school but having brothers during the holidays, and interacting with restricted no-nonsense country minds while having a sort of book-worm hippy outlook. Or something! I feel very lucky to have had a single child upbringing but with brothers occasionally. Best of both worlds sort of thing. I'm not sure they appreciated a little sister hanging around on their holidays though!
As for stubborn, there's two main types. The sort of stubborn where one vocally digs in one's heels loudly for all to see and hear, and the sort where you've just always done it that way and just keep on quietly doing it no matter what someone else says. I inherited/learnt both types, one from each parent.
Having a lot of mixed up beliefs instead of one main type means that I can't quite completely sheeple into any one religion, although I visit a few of them from time to time. They are beliefs that have built up over a lifetime and have all contributed and grown from each other, making it very difficult to articulate them. That sort of thing can lead to a different style of interacting with people, and a different sort of outlook on life.
My primary school years were spent in Bindoon, which was still mainly a country town back then - when I moved there the general store was only just being over-shadowed by a brand new supermarket. We lived about 5-10 minutes out of town on a hobby farm. We sheep farmed, had a few rows of orange trees and mandarin trees, and a vineyard of currant grapes (tasty!). I didn't really stay over any friend's place, and a lot of the time I was left on my own up at the house while the parents did farm stuff. TV time was restricted to 30 minutes a day. I spent most of my time reading, listening to records, and playing pretend. Or helping out with farm stuff, although not too much. Entertaining oneself without much tv influence or continuous peer influence outside of school most likely greatly contributed to my own style and individualism.
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Date: 2009-02-25 05:52 am (UTC)Alright, I'll give it some thought
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Date: 2009-02-25 06:01 am (UTC)2) Good business sense
3) Strong atypical morals
4) History and Politics
5) Achievement of many pie-in-the-sky goals
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Date: 2009-02-27 02:35 am (UTC)2) 'Mother Hen' relations with others.
3) Resolute belief in many things unsupported by evidence.
4) Giving (in time, effort etc).
5) Bipolar.
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Date: 2009-02-27 05:00 am (UTC)I will do this as soon as I can get over thinking "get fucked" about that fifth point :p